Improving the Fedora boot experience

Steve Clark sclark at netwolves.com
Tue Mar 12 13:13:34 UTC 2013


On 03/12/2013 07:04 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
>>
>> Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
>>>> Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>>>>>> I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need
>>>>>> them to be involved in CREATING and LEARNING. So I don't want to
>>>>>> scare any of them off.
>>>>> My OLPC does not present any boot menu or prompt.
>>>> That's not an argument for why we should not present one. It is an
>>>> argument for why they should be.
>>> Sorry but that's nonsense. Pretty much all other operating systems do
>>> not display the boot loader by default and you see this as a reason
>>> for showing it?
>>> What kind of weird logic is that? Or do you really think we can have
>>> "we do show a screen that you won't care about most of the time on
>>> every boot" as a selling point for fedora?
>> who cares about OTHER operating systems?
> You can't develop an operating system while living under a rock you
> have to look at what the competition does.
>
>> if i would want their behavior i would install them
> Strawman.
>
>> are you guys booting the whole day your machines that
>> save 2 seconds is woth any discussion?
> Yes 2 seconds is a LONG time when your system is using an SSD.
> Booting should be instant there is no reason why we should have to
> wait before being able to use the system. (killing grub delay gets us
> closer to that goal).
>
> I'd say booting is a more common task then messing with bootloader
> options so lets optimize for the former rather then the later.
How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a whole 20 additional seconds.



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