Improving the Fedora boot experience

Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
Tue Mar 12 16:01:30 UTC 2013


Le Mar 12 mars 2013 16:09, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit :
>   Hi,
>
>>> Keep in mind that the not show the menu by default plan depends on
>>> the bootspec changes, and that will include a gui tool which will
>>> allow users to select things like show the menu (and then it won't have
>>> a timeout so be easier to get to), or even to directly select the
>>> kernel to boot next time.
>>
>> Any gui tool requires a successful boot
>>
>> Successful means kernel ok, systemd ok, selinux ok, x/wayland ok, gdm
>> ok,
>> gnome-shell ok
>> (replace with other de equivalents)
>>
>> There are so many parts there where we *fail* the user regularly I don't
>> see how can anyone reasonably propose to build any safety net over them.
>>
>> For example, how are you going to deal with gfx drivers that break after
>> a
>> kernel update? The system thinks all is fine, even though the display
>> necessary for any gui is garbage.
>
> Well.  lilo (anyone remembers?) had a cool feature to address that, and
> for grub1 patches where floating around to implement something simliar.
>
> You could do "lilo -R $kernel $args".

This is not a solution to deal with everyday Fedora kernel updates that do
break gfx drivers every once in a while. The computer is here to help the
user not the reverse. Every time you exchange some computer work with some
human work you lose.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot



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