Improving the Fedora boot experience -> no plymouth!

[Richard Vickery]

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On Mar 12, 2013 7:37 AM, "Dan Mashal" <dan.mashal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
> >>
> >> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
> >>>> Von: Máirín Duffy
> >>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> >>>>> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that
> >>>> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK glyphs
> to
> >>>> the screen at this point in the boot process? I'm not quite sure
> that's
> >>>> possible? Another thing with translations is they take up additional
> >>>> disk space and I think (don't quote me on this, maybe Peter or one of
> >>>> the other grub experts could speak up) grub2 is a bit chubby compared
> to
> >>>> grub, but its space usage is a concern so to not have to have all the
> >>>> translation files for the languages we support would definitely be
> good.
> >>>> (grub2's girth is one of the reasons - on upstream's recommendation -
> >>>> that we don't allow installing the bootloader to a partition now.)
> >>>
> >>> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to
> >>> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines:
> >>> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader"
> >>
> >> Plymouth is not a mandatory boot process element right now, precisely
> >> because people who cared about fast boot found it unnecessary, and
> people
> >> who cared about maintainability also found it got in the way. Please do
> >> not advocate hardwiring it again
> >
> > plymouth is a no-go as requirement
> >
> > "rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0" are my first kernel params on a lot of
> machines
> >
> > [root at srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/90-plymouth.conf
> > omit_dracutmodules+="plymouth"
> >
> > is present on ANY machine i maintain
> >
> > the only thing i want on a machine is:
> > * no graphical stuff at boot time, not any of it
> > * no submenus in the boot-menu
> > * the kernel list dispalyed for 1 second
> > * no rhgb
> > * no quiet
> >
> > why?
> >
> > because i want to see what me system does if i look how it
> > boots up within 15 seconds and i want to face ANY possible
> > warning nobody cares especially after a upgrade
> >
> >
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>
> Fedora boot process MUST look pretty!
>
> Dan
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