Improving the Fedora boot experience

[Adam Williamson]

On 14/03/13 01:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
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>
> Am 14.03.2013 21:50, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> Well, then update your hardware
>>
>> That effectively means that *virtually all* laptops from 2013 on will
>> POST in ridiculously short times.
>>
>> Really, just go to your computer store, and look for any laptop that is
>> designed for Windows 8
>
> WOW
>
> this is a ridiculus attitude fro a linux-developer
> most of us are using Linux because we DO NOT need
> new hardware each year and you propose ignorance
> of this fact?

No, he didn't.

Can we de-escalate the debate?

Lennart did not really say "Everyone should be running hardware capable 
of POST-ing in two seconds or less".

A few people asserted that they'd never seen such hardware, so Lennart 
cited some.

The point is not that we must MAKE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BUY NEW 
HARDWARE, it's that there really is hardware out there which POSTs very 
quickly and there is likely to be an increasing amount of such hardware 
in the future: therefore Lennart's concern with the five seconds spent 
at the grub screen is legitimate. His point does not require that 
everyone in the world have fast booting hardware, just that such 
hardware exist and be likely to become increasingly prevalent. 5 seconds 
at grub isn't worth worrying about if the rest of boot can be relied 
upon to take 40 seconds, as always used to be the case for just about 
everyone, but when there really are systems that can otherwise boot in 3 
or 4 seconds, that 5 seconds becomes comparatively significant.
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