fedora release name problem

[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
> On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +0000
> >>> Sérgio Basto <sergio at serjux.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and
> >>>> pelican
> >>>> characters which
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
> >>>>
> >>>> Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat"
> >>>> to
> >>>> "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this additional
> >>>> problem ?
> >>>
> >>> I'd rather we fix things to handle this case than paper it over
> >>> by
> >>> changing it.
> >>
> > +1
> >
> >> I would very much like that we paper it over right now, unless you
> >> propose to discover and fix every single problem it causes by
> >> tomorrow,
> >> when I want us to start rolling TC images.
> >>
> > If by right now you mean until we get TC out (or even until we get
> > alpha
> > out), I wouldn't be opposed to that.  These sort of bugs really are
> > something that need to be fixed and this release name is a good
> > candidate
> > for doing so... but the time from alpha to beta is appropriate for
> > fixing
> > bugs so it's okay if we defer fixing them for a little while.
> >
> > -Toshio "who's been working on various iterations of a fix for this
> > in the
> > python3 package[1] for a few days" Kuratomi
> 
> Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing
> things
> the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
> 
> You want to set up a side project to spin some images with crazy
> release
> names and see what breaks and fix that, then you know, go for it. But
> I'm trying to ship an operating system that works here, and leaving
> something we know is causing all kinds of problems in the problematic
> state just so we can keep finding exciting new problems to fix does
> not
> suffuse me with joy.
> 
> If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean,
> _fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it over is just the right
> thing to do.

I'd say - go with the current one and fix all possible bugs OR change
it (and well, I prefer this solution as we really need working composes
soon for other devs and I'm really glad for more integration/stabilization
time between branching and freeze!) but not both. If we change it for
Alpha, fix bugs we are aware of now, we will hit new bugs during Beta
cycle for sure...

On the other hand - I really think we should fix it but it's probably
longer term run - we know that umlaut and ' are not a good citizens
in release name but there are probably much more combinations we could
hit in the future...

To make it short: de-internationalize release name, stick with it for
final.

Jaroslav 

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