fedora release name problem

Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com
Tue Mar 19 10:41:57 UTC 2013


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:31:30AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> >On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
> >>the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
> >>
> ><snip>
> >>If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean,
> >>_fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it over is just the right
> >>thing to do.
> >
> >I disagree.  This particular problem points out a problem that is only
> >going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of
> >software increases.  Not everything is ASCII or English, and not
> >defensively programming for such cases is short-sighted.
> >
> >Perhaps we are getting "burned out" by the hectic pace that Fedora tries
> >to keep with a six-month release cycle.  I know I sat out a lot of the
> >18 cycle due to a sense of being overwhelmed by the rush.
> 
> I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems
> needlessly stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of
> release validation, with booby traps exploding all around us. It's
> the kind of thing that can easily be worked on in a less stressful
> manner. Instead of using the development method 'let's break it now
> in our main product and fix stuff as we happen across it', how about
> the development method 'let's not break our main product for now,
> let's let people who want to hack on it do so as a side stream, and
> then when they think they have fixed the most important issues,
> _then_ they can propose putting the disruptive change into the main
> product'.

An interesting question is:  Why don't we try out the new release name
early on in Rawhide.  ie. we would change the release name now to
whatever F20 is going to be + " (Rawhide)".  Wouldn't that give us a
lot more time to test and fix?

Rich.

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