crash stats and proprietary kernel modules

[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 15:30 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 03/21/2013 03:13 PM, Richard Marko wrote:
> > On 03/21/2013 02:50 PM, Richard Marko wrote:
> >> In last two weeks these components were crashing the most:
> >>
> >> 1. kernel seen 45496 times (36% of all reports)
> >>      http://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/586553/
> >>      http://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/258569/
> >>
> >> 2. xulrunner seen 12020 times (9% of all reports)
> >>      http://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/244577/
> >>      http://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/294757/
> >>
> >
> >
> > These two quite popular problems both contain proprietary modules so I
> > would like to use this opportunity to start a discussion about inclusion
> > of reports containing proprietary or non-supported modules in our
> > statistics.
> >
> > My questions are:
> >   - are these helpful or not?
> 
> - it depends - helpful for what?
>    - for showing that there is a big problem with some proprietary 
> module? => yes
> 
>    - to get it fixed by kernel developers? => probably not, they usually 
> can't do much about it (can't there be a problem triggered by 
> proprietary module which is actually a bug in kernel??)

Even when this is the case, the fact that they can't see the source to
the proprietary module makes it next to impossible for the kernel devs
to debug. That's why all proprietary tainted reports pretty much go to
the round filing cabinet.

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