F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

Dan Mashal dan.mashal at gmail.com
Wed May 1 20:09:05 UTC 2013

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting at redhat.com> wrote:
> The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB).
> That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the
> edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD.
> Options include:
> 1) One/some of the desktops
> F19 DVD currently includes
> - KDE
> - XFCE
> - LXDE
> - Sugar
> - MATE (new in F19)
> - Cinnamon (new in F19)
> 2) The web server environment
> Contains web server and web server runtimes (PHP, JBoss, Mongo, perl,
> python, rails)
> 3) The developer & content creator workstation
> Contains the web server stuff above, Eclipse, developer tools, designer
> tools, Fedora packaging tools, and so on.
> Opinions?
> Bill
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In regards to MATE + Cinnamon:

MATE + Cinnamon fit on F18 x86_64 DVD but not the i686 DVD. The i686
and x86_64 have different sizes (one reason was due to including the
PAE and non PAE kernels).

That being said Cinnamon IS broken in F19 but it is only 2 packages on
top of Gnome 3.. cinnamon and muffin. We expect to have it working by
release and upstream is working on a fix, in fact I made some progress
last night and have Cinnamon 2D mode working.


Lots of other distros are dropping Cinnamon because of this. Let's not
be THAT distro.

Also after spending a lot of time the last few days trying to compose
the MATE liveCD a lot of unneeded dependencies were being pulled.

I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of
unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media.

Just my experience over the last few days.


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