no kernels updates in F17 ?

Adam Williamson awilliam at
Thu May 2 22:22:35 UTC 2013

On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma-option
> > in koji i would have given as i rolled out 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64
> > in production
> But 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 is not pushed to updates-testing . 
> Meanwhile kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17 has reached the stable karma threshold
> and will be pushed to the stable updates repository .  

I think the kernel team has intentionally stopped pushing things to
-testing so quickly for F(N-1) because the karma doesn't come in fast
enough; if they keep pushing builds to updates-testing as they get done,
then they *never* get enough karma to go stable before they get
obsoleted by the next one. So they're letting kernels sit in
updates-testing for longer in the hopes they'll at least get something
pushed stable.

I try to do f-e-k for F(N-1) regularly but I'm not doing a great job of
it lately :( We definitely need more people to do it. Thinking about it,
the problem may be that people running F(N-1) are typically more
'conservative' users who don't want to enable updates-testing. That's
certainly the case for me; my real F(N-1) systems are my servers, and I
don't want to run updates-testing on those, obviously. I have to use a
VM to do karma runs.
Adam Williamson
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