no kernels updates in F17 ?

[Sérgio Basto]

On Qui, 2013-05-02 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma-option
> > > in koji i would have given as i rolled out 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64
> > > in production
> > 
> > But 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 is not pushed to updates-testing . 
> > Meanwhile kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17 has reached the stable karma threshold
> > and will be pushed to the stable updates repository .  
> 
> I think the kernel team has intentionally stopped pushing things to
> -testing so quickly for F(N-1) because the karma doesn't come in fast
> enough; if they keep pushing builds to updates-testing as they get done,
> then they *never* get enough karma to go stable before they get
> obsoleted by the next one. So they're letting kernels sit in
> updates-testing for longer in the hopes they'll at least get something
> pushed stable.

> I try to do f-e-k for F(N-1) regularly but I'm not doing a great job of
> it lately :( We definitely need more people to do it. Thinking about it,
> the problem may be that people running F(N-1) are typically more
> 'conservative' users who don't want to enable updates-testing. That's
> certainly the case for me; my real F(N-1) systems are my servers, and I
> don't want to run updates-testing on those, obviously. I have to use a
> VM to do karma runs.


OK, also is not normal the number of updates in upstream . 
Anyway could someone give karma for a bunch of security updates ? 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6999/kernel-3.8.11-100.fc17

Please
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Sérgio M. B.