Idea: "{Gnome,KDE,Xfce,...} Minimal Desktop" groups

Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at
Fri May 3 12:20:47 UTC 2013

Le Mer 1 mai 2013 02:17, Sandro Mani a écrit :
> On 01.05.2013 02:08, Felix Miata wrote:
>> On 2013-05-01 01:37 (GMT+0200) Sandro Mani composed:
>>>> # yum install @critical-path-gnome
>>> The gnome one is close, the kde one not: critpath contains kdelibs and
>>> kdm, but a minimal set would rather look like
>>> base + xorg + mesa + kdm kde-workspace dejavu-sans-fonts
>>> dejavu-sans-mono-fonts
>>> (here it might be a good idea to have the dejavu-sans-fonts as
>>> dependencies of kdm / kde-workspace?)
>> Why only DejaVu (which along with Verdana and Vera have the
>> significantly largest average x-height and width of common western web
>> fonts)?
> Aren't the dejavu fonts those which are mapped to the standard sans,
> serif and monospace fonts? (could very well be wrong here).
>> What good are TTF/OTF fonts without Xorg?

Most our fonts are mapped to the relevant generic aliases, mapping them is
part of our standard font packaging process. Dejavu tend to be preferred
over other fonts when installed because it has decent glyphs for a lot of
scripts, but nothing prevents you from running a Fedora system with other
fonts now (or even specifying different priorities in /etc). A lot of
other fonts have 'nicer' glyphs for specific scripts. What they usually
lack is consistent quality over large coverage, it's easy to draw a few
hundred glyphs, i18n requires a lot more.

Hardcoding specific fonts in package deps only leads to sterile debates
about the best font to hardcode, and always angers part of the users,
since none of the existing fonts has wide and good enough coverage to
satisfy all user groups (that's why @fonts is a group with *lots* of
default entries).

Nicolas Mailhot

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