no kernels updates in F17 ?

[Sérgio Basto]

On Sex, 2013-05-03 at 07:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: 
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Sérgio Basto <sergio at serjux.com> wrote:
> > On Qui, 2013-05-02 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:01 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >> > On Sáb, 2013-04-27 at 15:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> > > this one is no longer relevant and if there would be a karma-option
> >> > > in koji i would have given as i rolled out 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64
> >> > > in production
> >> >
> >> > But 3.8.8-102.fc17.x86_64 is not pushed to updates-testing .
> >> > Meanwhile kernel-3.8.8-100.fc17 has reached the stable karma threshold
> >> > and will be pushed to the stable updates repository .
> >>
> >> I think the kernel team has intentionally stopped pushing things to
> >> -testing so quickly for F(N-1) because the karma doesn't come in fast
> >> enough; if they keep pushing builds to updates-testing as they get done,
> >> then they *never* get enough karma to go stable before they get
> >> obsoleted by the next one. So they're letting kernels sit in
> >> updates-testing for longer in the hopes they'll at least get something
> >> pushed stable.
> >
> >> I try to do f-e-k for F(N-1) regularly but I'm not doing a great job of
> >> it lately :( We definitely need more people to do it. Thinking about it,
> >> the problem may be that people running F(N-1) are typically more
> >> 'conservative' users who don't want to enable updates-testing. That's
> >> certainly the case for me; my real F(N-1) systems are my servers, and I
> >> don't want to run updates-testing on those, obviously. I have to use a
> >> VM to do karma runs.
> >
> >
> > OK, also is not normal the number of updates in upstream .
> > Anyway could someone give karma for a bunch of security updates ?
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6999/kernel-3.8.11-100.fc17
> 
> It's become enough of a problem that if we don't start getting more
> testers on the oldest
> release, the kernel team is probably going to break it's rule of not
> allowing the kernel
> maintainers give karma to kernel updates.  So yes, more help on the
> oldest release is
> much needed.

bodhi - 2013-05-02 23:02:24
This update has reached the stable karma threshold and will be pushed to
the stable updates repository

bodhi - 2013-05-03 02:00:46
This update has been pushed to testing 

kernel was approved before be pushed to testing , will be push to stable
or not ? 

Thanks,
-- 
Sérgio M. B.