F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

Jaroslav Reznik jreznik at redhat.com
Fri May 3 13:50:18 UTC 2013

----- Original Message -----
> On 05/03/2013 01:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> FWIW I agree with the general trend of discussion so far: let's find
> >> things to drop that don't really need to be on the DVD so we can keep
> >> MATE and Cinnamon. You can install those from live images or from repos
> >> of course, just like anything else, but they are things it makes a deal
> >> of sense to provide for offline users - probably more so than many of
> >> the candidates for removal so far - and there is a substantial PR
> >> benefit to including them.
> > It's good PR to have Mate and Cinnamon, another question is - with
> > Gnome Classic session - wouldn't be better to point our users to it now?
> >
> > But I tend to agree with trend - aim on users with DVDs, developers are
> > usually able to bring stuff for theirs development needs (and there are
> > much more options to select the right set than desktops). So count me
> > +1 to remove it.
> >   
> >> To address a couple of other points that have come up: the world
> >> certainly hasn't reached the point where we can target DL DVDs or huge
> >> USB sticks and forget about the SL DVD target, no. We still have
> >> significant usage of the DVD images, ambassadors can confirm this.
> > See my comment - Ambassadors can't confirm that - we do not distribute
> > it any more. One more reason I forgot to mention: it's cheaper to produce
> > more Multi Live DVDs - we get discount based on pieces in batch.
> >
> > Jaroslav
> Why bother with the DVD et all and enter countless debates what should
> and should not be on it.
> Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the
> netinstall and or ks and desktop users will use live spins?

I have to admit - I'm in favour of your suggestion. Just I have not
stated it as clearly as you!


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