when startup delays become bugs

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de
Wed May 15 10:52:00 UTC 2013

On Tue, 14.05.13 17:30, Dan Williams (dcbw at redhat.com) wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 15:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > This is not intended to be snarky, but I admit it could sound like it is.  When are long startup times for services considered to be bugs in their own right?
> > 
> > 
> > [root at f19q ~]# systemd-analyze blame
> >       1min 444ms sm-client.service
> >       1min 310ms sendmail.service
> >         18.602s firewalld.service
> >          13.882s avahi-daemon.service
> >          12.944s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
> Is anything waiting on NetworkManager-wait-online in your install?  That
> target is really intended for servers where you want to block Apache or
> Sendmail or Database from starting until you're sure your networking is
> fully configured.  If you don't have any services that require a network
> to be up, then you can mask NetworkManager-wait-online and things will
> be more parallel.

Dan, could you please implement these recommendations for F19:


This really shouldn't be pulled in unconditionally...


Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

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