when startup delays become bugs

Michal Schmidt mschmidt at redhat.com
Wed May 15 13:02:05 UTC 2013

On 05/15/2013 02:58 PM, Farkas Levente wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 02:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> We nowadays require syslog implementations to be socket activatable, and
>> that socket is around before normal services start, and that's
>> guaranteed, hence nobody has to depend on syslog explicitly anymore. All
>> services will have logging available anyway, out-of-the-box, as default,
>> with no manual configuration necessary, and without any referring to
>> syslog.target.
> is it documented?
> in many of your mails in this thread you wrote "nowadays", "anymore",
> "default", "modern system", "modern hardware", etc...
> does it documented anywhere? what are the assumptions and how nowadays
> fedora should have to work?

The requirements on syslog implementations to be compatible with systemd 
are described in:


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