anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

Dan Mashal dan.mashal at
Wed May 22 10:26:40 UTC 2013

On May 21, 2013 11:50 AM, "Adam Williamson" <awilliam at> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda
> > brought home how messy this design is at present.
> So! I've been poking through the logic of this for the last few days,
> still, and with some further testing of exactly what g-i-s and i-s
> actually do, and what anaconda and firstboot did in previous releases, I
> have an even simpler proposal:
> Make anaconda warn if you don't create a user, and nuke initial-setup
> for non-OEM installs.
> Here is how F18 behaved:
> * anaconda only let you create a root password, no user creation
> * firstboot ran on graphical installs, not text
> * firstboot would let you skip the user creation step, with a warning
> So here are all the things you could do with F18 and earlier:
> * Do a text install and create user account manually after initial login
> if you want one
> * Do a graphical install and create a user using firstboot
> * Do a graphical install, skip user creation in firstboot, and create
> user account manually if you want one
> Since F19 has user creation in anaconda, we can actually cover all those
> scenarios in anaconda quite easily. Literally all we have to do is make
> it pop up a warning if you try to quit the installer without creating a
> user account, but let you go ahead if you really want to.
> If we do that, then initial-setup is entirely superfluous to
> requirements. Anaconda would be able to do everything necessary, and
> would be encouraging people down the right path, but those who really
> want to do installs with no user account would still be able to.
> gnome-initial-setup would still be a different case, as GNOME apparently
> really wants to force the creation of a non-root account. So g-i-s will
> likely want to go on popping up if a user account was not created during
> installation. But that's entirely up to the desktop team what they want
> to do, and it's not at all incompatible with this proposal.
> So basically, I think we can just do a simple tweak to anaconda and not
> bother running initial-setup at all on a 'normal' install. We can of
> course keep it around for the OEM case, but that doesn't need to bother
> anyone else.

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