Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

Richard Hughes hughsient at
Fri Nov 1 11:01:57 UTC 2013

On 1 November 2013 03:19, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at> wrote:
> Having as the only GUI package management application on your spin one that
> does not even offer all packages is very broken.

You forgot to type "in my opinion"...

>> We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
>> don't allow to uninstall those.
> WTF!?

Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages
designed to be replaced.

>> Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
>> don't think so.
> Always the same broken assumption that Ubuntu's flawed design is the model
> to copy.

Actually, Ubuntu Software Center allows you view packages too,
although this split application/package model leads to a lot of
oddness in the UI. Packages are not interesting to desktop users, they
are just an implementation detail of how to get something done. e.g.
"Play my media file", "Open this document someone sent to me". Anyone
wanting to do things like "install a mysql server" or "remove evince"
already knows what they are doing, and is better served using yum/dnf
on the console.

We wanted to write an application that rocked for a certain set of
users, rather than write a generic UI that wasn't really usable by
anyone. Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit
package tools using the application installer, there's really no
reason to get upset at all.


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