Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

Matthias Clasen mclasen at
Sat Nov 2 17:45:06 UTC 2013

	On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 18:33 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 11:01 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages
> > designed to be replaced.
> Personally, I see little benefit in prohibiting users from removing core
> apps.  If they don't like a particular program, why force it on them?
> Many people like to have exactly one application for each task - for me
> that's the GNOME application, but it's not hard to understand why people
> replace Epiphany with Firefox, Totem with VLC, etc.
> Having a few uninstallable apps isn't a huge deal, but will be annoying
> for many and will justifiably draw user criticism.
> Anyway I'm curious exactly which apps will be uninstallable: are they
> handpicked or is there some criterion (e.g. everything in the core
> moduleset? but then would you be stuck with Epiphany if you install it,
> even though it's not installed by default?)
> On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 11:01 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > We wanted to write an application that rocked for a certain set of
> > users, rather than write a generic UI that wasn't really usable by
> > anyone. Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit
> > package tools using the application installer, there's really no
> > reason to get upset at all.
> When they're installed at the same time, is there appropriate magic to
> ensure that gnome-software handles system updates, or would there be
> some sort of horrible competition between the two?  (Maybe
> gpk-update-viewer should be retired entirely?) 

There's no competition.

If you run gpk-update-viewer it will let you install updates (individual
updates, 'online'), but it has no active role in monitoring system

In F20, the monitoring is done by the updates plugin in
gnome-settings-daemon (and it will use gnome-software when asked to
bring up a UI).

For F21, this is being moved to gnome-software itself - it fits better
there, and we get rid of the PackageKit dependency in
gnome-settings-daemon, which people have complained about before

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