Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

Christian Schaller cschalle at redhat.com
Sun Nov 3 02:44:04 UTC 2013

The PRD avoids these questions by design. To often open source discussions end up
being discussions about the merits of the means as opposed to the actual goals.

It should be a sobering notion that for all the years when the community discussed
if the a successful desktop should be implemented in C or C++ we ended up having our 
collective thunder stolen by a desktop written in Objective-C. There are some lessons
to be learned from that (and to be clear I don't think the lesson is that Objective-C is
a 'better' language).

So while of course there does come a point for drilling down into implementation detail,
the suggestion I got from various FeSCO members, and which I thought very sensible,
 was to avoid that being the starting point.


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Kofler" <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 1:14:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation
> Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Something that doesn't seem specified here is any sort of a design style
> > or guide for how apps used in the Workstation should generally be built
> > and function.  Is there intended to be that sort of standard?
> Indeed, the document carefully eschews this question, which goes hand in
> hand with the question of WHAT desktop environment(s) the Workstation is
> supposed to include. If the goal is (and I think it should be, because
> that's what users expect) a traditional desktop with a panel (containing at
> least the standard items: menu button, task bar, system tray, digital
> clock), a menu (popping up from the menu button in the panel), and a desktop
> displaying the xdg-user-dir for DESKTOP in some place (spread over the
> entire desktop or in a widget, Plasma can do either as desired), then it is
> clear that gnome-shell does NOT qualify.
>         Kevin Kofler
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