Rawhide nodebug and the 3.12 kernel

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Wed Nov 6 20:41:33 UTC 2013

Am 06.11.2013 21:37, schrieb Josh Boyer:
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
>> FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be
>> much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what I've
>> been running on my F20 box here for the last several weeks anyway, and
>> based on my testing it's unlikely to cause us any particular problems.
> I literally just screamed.
> The past 3 releases we've been pointedly reminded by QA that when
> doing fixes they should be scoped to as small as possible.  So we've
> been trying really hard to do that during the Alpha and the Beta
> freezes.  And now you want to ship a Beta (which gets the widest
> testing feedback of the pre-releases) with 3.11, and shove 3.12 in
> after that as the F20 release kernel?
> It could be the massive amount of email and meetings today addling my
> brain, but can you explain how that makes sense?

may i also bring in this discussion that the images are not rebuilt

in the worst case thi smeans live-CD/DVD images are unusable on recent hardware
a real-world case for me was F15 - unusable on SandyBridge machines by horrible
frrezing desktop all day long, these day snot that critical because we got new
kernels after release, but they does not change live-media after it

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