gnome software shell search provider? [Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime?]

Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosowski at
Wed Nov 6 21:56:33 UTC 2013

On 11/03/2013 08:23 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael Scherer wrote:
>> However, since you didn't explained at all what are the issues you are
>> facing with the new approach, and since you have only explained how you
>> are doing on your 20 servers ( which is totally unrelated to the
>> question of desktops, BTW, and which would still be usable at your
>> convenience on anything you maintain ), I am quite sceptic on your whole
>> intervention.
> The issues are that:
> * updates require 2 reboots,
> * you cannot use what you upgraded before doing the reboots,
> * in particular, you cannot install new packages built against the updated
>    ones before the reboots,
> * security fixes also only take effect after the reboots.

Another issue is that it's a negative user experience---people either 
are interrupted at a time of sysadmin's choosing, or, worse, turn the 
computer off, and then turn it back on later expecting to use it 
promptly,  and have to wait much longer. And then it happens again, and 
again, with regularity. This is a problem for any kind of delayed 
updates---even those scheduled for re-login instead of reboot.

We don't have a way of telling which updates REQUIRE reboot(*)--but 
solving this problem by rebooting always is not right, in my opinion.


(*) Such list may not even be possible: it would obviously include the 
kernel, and currently running applications/services which cannot be 
reloaded, and even subsystems that might have been initialized one way 
but now must be initialized differently, and ...
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