OSGi 5 Implementation
manuel.faux at conf.at
Mon Nov 11 14:31:31 UTC 2013
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:02:07 +0100
"puntogil at libero.it" <puntogil at libero.it> wrote:
> Il 11/11/2013 11:35, Manuel Faux ha scritto:
> > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:07:55 +0100
> > "puntogil at libero.it" <puntogil at libero.it> wrote:
> >> Il 11/11/2013 10:53, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto:
> >>> On 11/09/2013 03:25 PM, Manuel Faux wrote:
> >>>> I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an
> >>>> OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi
> >>>> Alliance's specification, whose license is not compatible with
> >>>> Fedora, as far as I know
> >>>> (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks).
> >>> This license is clearly non-free.
> > The strange thing is, that the pre-download information (the link
> > above) shows a quite restrictive license, but when you actually
> > download the file, the LICENSE file in the jar file mentions Apache
> > License 2.0.
> >>>> Is there any OSGi 5 implementation already in Fedora's repos I
> >>>> can use for that purpose? All packages I checked so far only
> >>>> support OSGi 4 (Eclipse Equinox, JBoss OSGi, Apache Felix).
> >>> Not that I know.
> >>>> I found Knopflerfish, which is a OSGi 5 platform licensed under
> >>>> BSD license, which would be compatible to Fedora
> >>>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/). Unfortunately this package does
> >>>> not yet exist for Fedora. Building this package, would be kind of
> >>>> a plan B.
> >>> Knopflerfish depends on code from OSGi Alliance , so if that
> >>> code is non-free then packaging Knopflerfish itself won't solve
> >>> the problem.
> >> the main knopflerfish module no, maybe other sub-modules, depend on
> >> ee.minimum.jar
> > I'm not so deep into OSGi frameworks, but basically we just need the
> > framework, not even the complete service platform. To build this
> > framework, the ee.minimum.jar is required. Is this the critical part
> the only build dep required for build this framework is objectweb-asm
> 3.x (the rest of the build deps are listed as comment in my spec file
> before do this assertion should be require to know what you are
> talking about...
My bad, the build.xml  of the Knopflerfish 5.0.0 framework mentions
ee.minimum.jar, even it is not necessarily required (only as an
extension for JDK < 7).
> but i think i don't want upgrade K to 5.0.0 (OSGi R5 ri/apis, already
> built on my system), the previous release are requires for build an
> use some https://github.com/ops4j/ libraries (R4 and R5 are not
> compatible) i apologized if my comment seem a bit hard
I think in this case a package of the framework would be sufficient,
since it has only a few dependencies.
Any complaints about this?
> > depending on OSGi Alliance licensed code? If yes, how is it ever
> > possible to get an OSGi 5 framework into a FOSS product?
> >>> 
> >>> https://knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/trunk/osgi/ee/ee.minimum.jar
> >> regards
> > Manuel
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