Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

Corey Sheldon sheldon.corey at gmail.com
Tue Apr 1 00:37:22 UTC 2014


Whatever if they can't learn the basics and the fundamental basis of Linux
or the "Patent" issues and what have you then go somewhere else like to mac
or windows......sometimes you need to work for things and teaching a man to
fish is always better and personally while i think at first you may be
right the community as a whole will have less of the "why the #@#@@# can't
I use this or that in the development forums and force the maintainers to
make this more transparent and beyond that if you can't grasp that minor
issue then why are you on a RPM-based IT linux distro much less Fedora in
the blanking first place?


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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com>wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 09:17 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >
> > > - VLC
> > >
> > > Free software video player, but with a requirement (or at least can
> > > use if available) proprietary / patented / ugly / semi-legal codecs.
> > > Currently packaged in RPMFusion for reasons I'm not clear on.
> >
> > I've looked into this a bit, and discussed with other distro packagers
> and
> > vlc upstream.
> >
> > VLC is fairly modular, and it's unencumbered bits could be brought to
> fedora
> > and the other stuff live in some -freeworld subpkg in rpmfusion.
> >
> > Implementing this would be a bit of work, but worth it in my opinion.  I
>
> Well, I'm not so sure. A *lot* of people really don't understand the
> patent issue. Like, at all. They don't understand modularity. Like, at
> all. To a lot of people, the thing called 'vlc' is a magic black box
> that plays every video ever. They "install VLC" and then they play
> videos. This is the limit of their understanding.
>
> If we make it so you can 'yum install vlc' and get something that can
> barely play anything, then tell people they 'just' have to 'yum install
> vlc-freeworld' to get it to actually work properly, we may wind up with
> more unhappiness than we have just by having all of vlc in the Sekrit
> Third Party Repository in the first place. That kinda forces them to get
> the whole thing or nothing, which is almost always what they want. They
> never wind up in the twilight zone where they have what is, to them,
> half a VLC.
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