Considering GNOME 3.12 as an F20 update

Matthew Miller mattdm at
Thu Apr 3 17:41:52 UTC 2014

On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:09:32PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > And I have yet to see any request have been made to the test list to
> > at least do the same validation on Gnome as is done before we release
> > an new GA release.
> Note that I am not asking about armchair opinions about whether this
> idea would theoretically fit the guidelines.

Let's keep this friendly and in line with the "be excellent" guideline,
please. I know you are both very passionate about this.

Phrasing aside, the basic concern about bad user experience due to changing
UI mid-cycle is completely valid and has nothing to do with any general
perception of Gnome. That's why the policy is there, after all. There's no
reason any contributor can't raise those sort of points even if it wasn't
what you asked. It's an important point of the overall decision.

And, Jóhann's note about working with the QA team to develop a test plan and
run through it seems worth pursuing if the members of QA team are interested
and willing (or interested in helping Gnome people or volunteers figure out
how it's normally done). I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that extra
review would making doing the rebase a lot more comfortable -- anecdotal
reports from people running Rawhide or using the Copr are useful for what
they are, but they're not formal QA.

Matthew Miller    --   Fedora Project    --    <mattdm at>
                                  "Tepid change for the somewhat better!"

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