The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

Paul W. Frields stickster at
Mon Apr 21 16:03:55 UTC 2014

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 08:40:03AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> ...snip...
> IMHO, it feels wrong to call this it's own foundation. A foundation is
> a core value of our community, and this seems like a harsh reality we
> have to live with. 

I also have a hard time envisioning functionality at the level of the
other core values. But I certainly think it's important. Fedora has
carved out specific space for functionality in areas like kernel
firmware in the past.  Those were the right decisions to ensure users
can make use of the platform in a world we don't control (e.g. where
firmware is an increasingly key part of OEM TTM strategy).

> I guess I would prefer to have the 'freedom' foundation clarified some
> rather than adding this as a foundation. 


> I guess it depends on where we draw the line how we clarify too. Is it
> anything remote is allowed to be nonfree? Or anything thats a client
> that interacts with something non free? 

I think forcing our users to eschew nonfree web services increasingly
sidelines the Fedora platform.  For example, making it harder for
developers to use preferred services like github (operational) or
Twitter (social/advertising) doesn't help Fedora improve as a
hospitable platform.

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