F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Wed Apr 23 08:27:16 UTC 2014

Am 23.04.2014 07:52, schrieb Liam:
> On Apr 22, 2014 5:09 AM, "Christian Schaller" wrote:
>> I think this is a misunderstanding of who a developer might be and why they choose
>> a system. Those of my friends and acquaintances, who are developers and who over the
>> years have decided to switch their development laptops from Linux to predominantly
>> MacOS X, has not done so because they had things they wanted to do that was
>> 'impossible' to do with Linux or that they thought they could not figure out how to
>> do with linux. Instead they moved because they got tired of spending time trying to
>> make their system 'work'. This is in no way limited to dealing with the challenges
>> of a firewall, but if we want to attract developers or any kind of user to our
>> system we need to make it usable without needing daily google searches
>> to figure out how you can do something and make parts of your system work.

the daily google searches are much more because interfaces are permanently
replaced - be it GUI's or CLI interfaces and configurations get invalid
due all that replacements - *there* is the problem - what you know today
maybe in 3 years as ivalid as what you learend 5 years ago about a Fedora
system and whatever you find with Google is quentionable and likely outdated

smart replacements whould keep interfaces as they are and only replace
the code behind and add some options but not break the semantic

> The fact of the matter is that there's really no compelling reason for the average web 
> developer, for instance, to move to Linux. Osx is already more powerful than any linux 

stop that

i face every single day the opposite because on the other side
of my desk is a OSX machine, terrible slow with the same CPU and
a unacceptable usability compared with a recent KDE because you
can't do this and that

the usability part may be subjectively, the terrible slow is not
given both of our machines have the same CPU

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