[RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Sat Apr 26 01:03:41 UTC 2014


Am 26.04.2014 02:01, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
> On 04/25/2014 10:53 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> I don't think our foundations ever implied that we need or want to be a closed ecosystem restricted to only the
>> repository we produce.  The just don't address this.
> 
> You must understand we cannot keep back process in the distribution, be it cleanup or advancement based on some 3rd
> party requirements out there since we are as powerless to help them as we are with proprietary components.

you must understand that you can't do any "cleanup" coming to your mind if you are
building an *operating system* without care for the real use cases out there or you
will and in a very clean environment nobody but you will use over the long because
nobody wants to work with a operatiung system where every few weeks thins left and
right are falling down

progress is not defined by destory others environments for a theoretical better future
because the way some hardline "cleanupers" will never stop acting that way and begin to
deprecate things which *now* you are telling everybody has to migrate to to deprecate
3 years later

a *operating system* is *the base* for others work and as long  some people don't understand
that they are doing harm not only to the distribution and the current users, they damage Linux
as a whole ecosystem because nobody right in his mind will migrate to a operating system where
his work is destroyed every few months or years

*that is* why microsoft is that sucessful while they are shipping technical crap - you have to
find a way to develop and improve things without breaking careless left and right around you or
you end meaningless - the way of such development is replace code but keep interfaces and
configurations compatible and unchanged - yes that's harder than throw away anything when
ever you like to do so and start from scratch - but if you don't want to do this you
should not pretend you are developing an operating syteem

*you* fear Fedora ends meaningless if the progress is not fast enough?

the reality is Fedora ends meaningless if it is only a technical playground with no stability
in interfaces endusers and developers outside the distribution can build on top of and the
reason why Unix and unix-like systems are survived that many years are stable interfaces until
a few years ago the "throw away and break anything"-attitude started that much

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