"Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Mon Dec 8 11:41:22 UTC 2014

Am 08.12.2014 um 12:34 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
>>>> Am 08.12.2014 um 11:45 schrieb Bastien Nocera:
>>>>>> Well, I'll understand these aspects.
>>>>>> But when I think about Linux, especially about Fedora, I'm thinking
>>>>>> about the freedom to make decisions. This means to me, to customize
>>>>>> and take advantage of my computer and in this case my operating
>>>>>> system.
>>>>> You're free to select another firewall zone
>>>> so why do you not make secure defaults and say "You're free to select
>>>> another (more unsecure) firewall zone"?
>>> 1) It is secure enough and Eclipse listening to a port by default is a bug
>>> (and I have the firewall specialists at Red Hat/Fedora to back me up)
>> I have Eclipse open and it's not listening to a port AFAIKT. I wonder what
>> obscure plugin is installed in Eclipse to make this happen.
> Thanks for following up Aleksandar. Hopefully Reindl will let us know about that
> so the bug can be fixed.

* first: it is not a Fedora package
* second: it does not matter

fixing applications to work around harmful firewall settings is the 
wrong direction - the *purpose* of a firewall is to *protect* against 
such things and i really don't get why this needs to be explained 
multiple times

that's the same as drive a car on the street, facing another driver 
ignoring his red light and instead try to stop your car just say "he is 
wrong and i am allowed to drive"

a sensible reaction would be stop, call the others names and live
the ignorant reaction would be get killed but be right at it

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