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Matthew Miller mattdm at fedoraproject.org
Wed Dec 10 19:56:32 UTC 2014

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47:20PM -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
> As best I can tell from Matthew Miller's responses there, Fedora has
> abandoned that portion of its previous user base that was using
> Fedora as a general, secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. 

That's.... _very much_ not what I said.

> Those users are no longer supported by any Fedora product.

Fedora has never had anything like the new Cloud/Server/Workstation.
Existing users are supported in the same way they always have been.

Installing Workstation and applying 

> •  Install Fedora 20, update it, then fedup to "nonproduct" variant
> of Fedora 21; or

I don't really understand the logic here. Why would you go that route?
This seems like a very catastrophic overreaction. Have you tried Fedora
21 Workstation?

Installing Workstation and applying whatever changes you prefer to
rearch your target seems like the easiest path. But...

> •  Use the server net install to install a minimal system as a
> "nonproduct" variant of Fedora 21, and then install a long list of
> packages needed to convert it into a general desktop OS.

... this is also a good approach. It's definitely what I've always done
in creating systems for people I needed to support. But "long list"
seems to again be catastrophizing the situation. We have packages
grouped in comps and in install environments so it's really not all
that complicated.

> My users are accustomed to Gnome, so I prefer not to change to one
> of the alternative desktop environment spins if there is an easy way
> forward with Gnome.

If you, or any other collaborators, would like to build a GNOME-based
spin targeting a different use case, not only is there nothing stopping
you, it's encouraged. Take a look here:
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Process#Creating_a_Spin>. It's
not that difficult (basically, the same as the above in kickstart form,
plus the commitment to keep it up to date and do minimal testing).

Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader

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