Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosowski at nist.gov
Fri Feb 14 18:02:21 UTC 2014


On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski<przemek.klosowski at nist.gov>  wrote:
>> There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the
>> latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application installation
>> tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it relegates text-based tools,
>> such as 'units', to a second-class status of being hard to find and to
>> install.
> That's not the tool we've designed and built. We've built a GUI
> application installer, not a package installer.
[sorry fo the delayed answer---I got wrapped up and had this draft 
sitting open for two weeks]

While it's not the fault of the installer,  I am concerned about that 
distinction. For better or worse, a lot of useful tools seem to be out 
of scope for a 'GUI application installer'. GCC, perl, git, octave, R, 
units, mysql/sqlite3,  this kind of thing. It doesn't even make sense to 
shoehorn them into GUI app world by embedding them in terminals, because 
their natural environment is command-line interaction.

The emphasis on GUI is great, but it should enhance rather than 
deprecate the old-style interactive command model that arguably is the 
core idea in Unix. Your tool, while improving the GUI app experience, 
could also support non GUI software---or at least not completely ignore 
its existence. I do get it that there is a class of GUI users that need 
to see a window with buttons and help, and non-GUI apps simply baffle 
them with a blinking command prompt, at best. OTOH, I believe there 
should be a setting in the installer about that, "do not show me 
commandline software". I believe that it should be off by default, but 
maybe I am wrong about that.

Do you really think it's impossible?

By the way, I even use some commandline-like apps on my Android. In 
fact, I dislike the fact that the 'GUI app' view of the world results in 
separate app for every function: an app for Slashdot, and a slightly 
different app for Reddit.
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