F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

[Mo Morsi]

On 01/18/2014 01:40 AM, Michael Stahnke wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Mo Morsi  wrote:
>>> Yes as others have mentioned puppet requires ruby(release) which is
>>> satisfied by both ruby-mri and jruby
> So should it just require ruby-mri?
>
> The divergence from the way upstreams handle ruby here is quite
> difficult to work with. I find ruby-pick and bundler patching to be
> less fun/friendly than having what I'd expect form upstream. I'm not
> in love with the way upstream handles/does things, but I don't really
> understand what happened to the 'upstream first' mantra. Here we
> (Fedora) just made up their own rules and moved forward.


Could you elaborate on what the difficulty is? Just curious as to what
issues there are.

Completely agree that the current Fedora/Ruby integration is not ideal,
it is a work in progress afterall. That being said upstream Ruby
practices and downstream Fedora guidelines do take different approaches
to many various things, eg just the existence of bundler is counter to
Fedora's 'no-vendored-deps' policy. So compromises will have to be made
at some level.

We try our best to make everyone happy, providing as much of the
flexibility associated with upstream Ruby practices that we can while
still adhering to Fedora's principles and strategies. Now if we could
install multiple versions of a rubygem rpm via yum, that'd help us out a
bit.....


>> ... which is fine.  However yum install puppet should be pulling in only
>> one.  Not both.  I would say almost everybody would expect that to be
>> ruby-mri
> I would say exactly everybody, since on jruby there are issues.
>

Didn't know puppet didn't work on JRuby, what about the other Ruby
interpreters such as Rubinius? If MRI is the only supported solution for
Puppet, then yes I'd agree that specific dep should be there (though am
not the package maintainer myself), but if it can work against multiple
backends then why not let the user decide?

  -Mo

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