Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Thu Jan 23 23:21:11 UTC 2014

On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 23:50 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 23:37 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> >
> >> > No, I don't disagree with you there. But the repos don't exist in a
> >> > vacuum. Right now they are our way of shipping software in Fedora: our
> >> > *only* way. If you want to install the Fedora-y version of a particular
> >> > piece of software, you use the repositories. End of story.
> >>
> >> I can do "gem install foo" or "pip install foo" on current (and past)
> >> fedora releases.
> >> So no the story does not quite end here ;)
> >
> > Those are not Fedora-provided software. At the point you install and
> > invoke gem or pip, you are making an explicit decision to use non-Fedora
> > software. Which is, of course, perfectly fine: but it's not an analogous
> > situation to there being alternative distribution methods *within the
> > Fedora distribution*.
> Sure but people do that. We can either pretend they don't or try to
> somehow deal with it. Currently we are exploring ways to deal with it.

You're pivoting the discussion quite extensively at this point, and I'm
not really sure you're pivoting it down an interesting path.

Nothing I said, so far as I can see, implied that I'm endorsing
"pretending people don't do that", nor do I think that's a reasonable
characterization of the current situation. I'll just leave this fork
Adam Williamson
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