[fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective--- how to improve ARM Fedora

Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosowski at nist.gov
Wed Jun 11 21:33:36 UTC 2014

On 06/11/2014 03:09 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski at nist.gov> said:
>> Fedora simply must support ARM because it ensures future viability.
>> The progress in ARM hardware platforms is amazing---ARM device sales
>> overtook x86 in 2010 [1] and of course the total number of ARM
>> processors in the wild exceeds x86 by orders of magnitude. Even if
>> we limit ourselves to 'computer' devices, ARM is significant and the
>> numbers can only change further in ARM's favor. Limiting Fedora to
>> x86 would condemn it to a relative or maybe even absolute gradual
>> decline.
> As has been pointed out before, sheer cores sold is a meaningless thing.
> MIPS and PPC outsold x86 before, and that obviously didn't condemn
> Fedora to irrelevance.
Right, of course, and I tried to convey that it's only "computers" or 
"devices" that count. MIPS and PPC was never that successful for those, 
and ARM seems to be. I installed Linux on Android tablets, and it's 
useful, and will be even more useful when such devices start showing up 
in appliances. Android is great for a phone but not so great when you 
want a heavily customized system. By the way, I installed Debian because 
I had no idea how to start with Fedora, even though I know Fedora better 
and prefer it. My next project is a 7", $40 Aztek tablet: I will try to 
put Fedora on it!
> How many ARM devices are supported by Fedora 20, as compared to the
> number of x86 devices supported by Fedora 20?  The ARM market targeted
> by Fedora is very small compared to the number of x86 machines that can
> run F20.
That's a circular argument: few devices are supported because the 
support is weak.  I believe that ARM is worth supporting in the long run 
and Fedora ARM should at least catch up to and then exceed Debian.
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