F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Petr Spacek pspacek at redhat.com
Thu Jun 12 15:38:58 UTC 2014

On 12.6.2014 16:16, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> 2014-06-12 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jan Zelený <jzeleny at redhat.com>:
>>> It boils down to this: someone is going to be inconvenienced. I argue
>>> it's better to inconvenience the minority with special 'yum' needs by
>>> making them use the 'yum-old' alias, rather than inconveniencing the
>>> majority by making everyone switch their scripts and fingers to 'dnf'.
>> As I said, we will have transition layer so using yum in your shell scripts
>> will still work for a few more releases. A vast majority of users should
>> not
>> experience any inconveniences other than different output on the command
>> line.
> … *now*, but *will be inconvenienced later* after those “a few more
> releases” when you are planning for the yum command to go away.  The total
> breakage and total impact on users is the same, you are only arguing for a
> different timing that makes it seem like a smaller breakage.
> (And separately, I don’t buy the argument that this
> redirection-with-a-message is how users learn about the new tools.  This
> way they only learn about the *most useless* part of the change, namely
> “that old thing the system used to do?  It can do the same thing, but in
> addition you have to learn a new command to keep it working“.  It doesn’t
> teach *the useful part*, “here are the new features and here’s how to use
> them" at all.)

I support people who are requesting "yum" name to stay with us forever.

Please replace "yum" with "dnf" when yum-legacy is finally dropped.

Petr^2 Spacek

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