F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Fri Jun 13 15:01:13 UTC 2014

Am 13.06.2014 16:49, schrieb drago01:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Steve Clark <sclark at netwolves.com> wrote:
>> On 06/13/2014 09:03 AM, drago01 wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
>> the user expects that anyways if you replace something he
>> did not asked for replace it and what just worked for him
>> Well there are different levels of "works" i.e just because something works
>> that
>> something does not have to be the best possible implementation of
>> "something" ...
>> Horses worked too but at some point we decided that cars work better
>> and moved on.
>> Yes but who is this better for? A few developers or the mass of people and
>> documentation that
>> are used to using "yum".
>> With cars it was obviously better for me - dnf not so obvious.
> Well I replied to his general statements about developers "not
> understanding simple facts" ... that aside ...

then the next time quote that what you reply to instead strip it
out and stop talking about "statements" and "facts" because what you
refer to was "the user expects that anyways if you replace something
he did not asked for replace it and what just worked for him, why
do so many developers not understand that simple fact?"

it let you not look smarter if you try to drive a discussion
in a specific direction by selective quoting and refer to
things nobody but you knows you are refer to

the argumentation the whole thread is bigot because as long it's
opportune to support the own viewpoint the reason for the rename
is because users expectations but if someone makes clear that it's
wrong than the same people switch their argumentation within seconds
to "it's the developers decision"

bad attitude - someone should decide if he cares more for users
and thousands of documentations, howtos and books or if he don't
care for the users - not change his position all the time

> it fits pretty well the horse (yum) is slower so takes longer to get
> the job done as the car (dnf) ;)

well, hopefully it does not fit the same way if it needs to drive
offside a nice road in context of software: stability

i am tired hear people talking about milliseconds of boot-performance
and what update tool is slightly faster here and there because i never
met anybody who is booting and upgrading his system 365/24/7

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