dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

Mathieu Bridon bochecha at fedoraproject.org
Mon Jun 23 17:21:43 UTC 2014


On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 19:07 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 23.06.2014 18:47, schrieb Chris Adams:
> >> Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III <bruno at wolff.to> said:
> >>> Try yum update when the oldest installed kernel (and the running
> >>> kernel) is the only one that works and there is a new (still broken
> >>> for your system) kernel update available. In that case one really
> >>> wouldn't expect the running kernel be removed. Having to remove a
> >>> specific kernel before doing an update (to make sure the wrong one
> >>> wasn't removed) would be a pain.
> >>
> >> I guess I never considered it a pain.  That's exactly what I would do if
> >> I knew a particular kernel was broken (remove specifically the broken
> >> kernel).  I never knew yum/a yum plugin/whatever did "magic" stuff based
> >> on the running kernel, trying to remove "special" packages like yum,
> >> etc.
> >
> > be glad that you learned something new :-)
> >
> >
> >> I have no problem with GUI tools having magic protections built in, but
> >> I prefer CLI tools that don't try to out-think me.  yum/dnf already asks
> >> for confirmation (which is more than up2date did); having additional
> >> layers of protection/confirmation/whatever built-in seems excessive to
> >> me.
> >
> > in general - agreed
> >
> > but not if it comes to destory the complete setup
> >
> >> It looks like there isn't even a way to override this behavior in yum.
> >> I haven't wanted to remove all the kernels in a while (I guess since
> >> before this was added); is the only way to bypass yum and use rpm?
> >
> > yes - simply because the chance that soemone wants to uninstall all
> > kernels, yum, dnf and finalyl rpm itself is very low
> 
> You still did not give a simple case why someone with some sanity left
> would do "yum remove rpm" or "yum remove yum" ...

One thing I've seen a few times at the time Yum didn't have that
protection was « I don't do development, so I can remove Python »

It did lead to a few people not having Yum installed any more.


-- 
Mathieu



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