dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski dominik at greysector.net
Wed Jun 25 11:01:27 UTC 2014

On Wednesday, 25 June 2014 at 11:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 06/23/2014 07:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:44:31 -0400,
> >  Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>I would suggest that the fix for this is to not push broken kernels so
> >>frequently that 'the oldest one is the only that works' becomes an
> >>issue, and to introduce automatic testing that ensures you can at least
> >>boot rawhide to the login screen, _before_ a build gets pushed out to
> >>the masses.
> >
> >While this usually isn't a problem for the updates repo (though there
> >have been times where kernels were not usable by me for several months
> >even in the released branches), it's not so nice for rawhide (possibly
> >plus the rawhide nodebug repo) where there can be new kernels pushed to
> >rawhide each day (and more than one if you're testing things from koji).
> >
> >For example right now I need to use a 3.15 kernel on one of my machines
> >because of an issue affecting md raid and the running kernel is the
> >oldest and only working kernel installed on that machine.
> I am also running the latest 3.15 on one of my (f20) machines, because
> apparently x11/kernel interaction is broken for me with all 3.16 kernels
> (Intel HD Graphics 4600 GPU),

FWIW I had to stay on 3.11.10 until 3.14 came along, because 3.12 and
3.13 would not boot or come out of suspend randomly. So yes, there's
a very good case for keeping the running kernel even if it's the oldest
one installed.

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