Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.03.2014 23:33, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 22:52 +0100, drago01 wrote:
>>> There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
>>> you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
>>> your race/color/general genetic origin.
>>
>> Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / whatever.
>> There is is the option of "just ignore".
> 
> That is not a true choice. "Ignoring" the effect of marginalization that
> such offensive texts ignore is, effectively, opting into it.
> 
> I'm gay. I can "choose to ignore it" when people yell 'faggot!' at me,
> but it's not a choice I should be forced, required or expected to make,
> and in a sense, it feels like a betrayal to the group being
> discriminated against to do so. Not speaking out is, in a sense,
> tantamount to accepting that sort of treatment as OK. (Not to criticize
> those in this or other commonly-discriminated-against groups who do
> choose to ignore offensive acts; there *are* valid reasons to make that
> choice in some circumstances, but it is not OK to say "well, that's just
> what you should always do.")
> 
>> But unfortunatly a lot of people don't think that way.
> 
> There are reasons why

not really good ones

it is indeed a amercian phenomenon always feel personally abused
by anything and if there is no actual reason people feel abused
because they are ignored - if i seek for a reason to feel abused
i will find one - mailing lists with english speakers prove that

that is the same as german people are not allowed to criticize
isreal even if they are 100% right because of "their" history
while most where even not born at that time

what about people live their live and just ignore things they
don't like? life would be too easy? so hwat....



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