F21 Self Contained Change: Security Policy In The Installer

Eric H. Christensen sparks at fedoraproject.org
Fri Mar 14 22:24:36 UTC 2014


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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 08:01:53PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 03:56:47PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 07:45:53PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > The failure mode of making the wrong choice regarding an encrypted 
> > > partition or the default user being an administrator involves the system 
> > > *continuing to work*. The failure mode of making the wrong choice 
> > > regarding security policy is that things you expect to work mysteriously 
> > > don't.
> > 
> > What exactly do you think would be done with one of these policies?  You seem to think that an incorrect choice will brick a system.
> 
> If an incorrect choice means that the software the user wants to run 
> won't run, that's going to be a problem for the user. And we presumably 
> expect that some software won't run, because otherwise we'd be enabling 
> that security feature by default? A user who accidentally installs a 
> profile that enables FIPS compliance is going to have a bad time, for 
> instance.

No, that's not exactly it.  I've pointed out reasons why defaults usually suck (security-wise).  I've yet to see a hardened system make software fail.  I'd love some examples of your concerns.  I also don't understand why FIPS compliance will make a user have a bad time since I've been on systems that were fully FIPS compliant and didn't have any problems.

- -- Eric

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Eric "Sparks" Christensen
Fedora Project

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