Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

Matthew Miller mattdm at
Tue Nov 4 14:27:37 UTC 2014

On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 03:26:50AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can
> > do to try to avoid the "hero testing" treadmill that we've been on
> > during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually
> > fixing Blocker bugs until the day before the Go/No-Go meeting and that
> > means that our QA team is pulling all-night test runs basically every
> > week).
> Your proposed changes will only cause us to slip more often. Those "hero" 
> runs have been done for a reason: to prevent a slip that would otherwise 
> have been inevitable! Your proposed changes effectively ban such "hero" 
> actions, actively preventing volunteers from helping releasing Fedora on 
> time. I see no benefit whatsoever coming from those changes.

Kevin, I'm missing something here. You're right that the QA hero runs
are done to prevent slips, but I'm not seeing the logical connection
between what Stephen suggests and _banning_ them. The idea is to make
them less likely to be necessary with the cooparation of packagers as
we go up to the release.

Matthew Miller
<mattdm at>
Fedora Project Leader

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