Note on 'systemd-216-9'

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbyszek at
Wed Nov 5 14:26:43 UTC 2014

On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:22:10PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 04:52 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > It's not about Lennart. Afaik he usually sticks to git HEAD and/or
> > rawhide. There are multiple reports about systemd entering an infinite
> > loop and I *thought* that this is a step in the right
> > direction.
> Well, looking at it practically as a user - if my system sticks in an
> infinite loop on boot, and the message is 'well, this new release
> doesn't make it boot properly, but it *will* time out and hard power off
> after 15 minutes' - that doesn't really make me jump for joy. Has it
> practically improved my situation? Not really.
For powerup it doesn't, for shutdown it might. If systemd got confused
in its little mind and cannnot unwind the stack of mounts, syncing the
filesystems and powering off *is* a better outcome than hanging. Even
more so for reboots - for a remote machine a hung reboot can be much
more problematic than a reboot after 30 minutes.

The issue is how to deal with long-running jobs. Current approach
doesn't work for them at all — so it is not a solution we can
enable. The timeouts are disabled in F21 packages and in upstream git
and will push and update that also removes them in rawhide.

> To give a really personal example, I'm one of the people suffering from
I'd love to see this fixed too :)


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