btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

Josef Bacik josef at
Mon Oct 6 14:26:02 UTC 2014

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler at> wrote:
> On 10/06/2014 08:54 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> Well that's exactly what it is, go away I'm busy with other stuff :).  The
>> fact is I'm the only one who can drive btrfs as the default filesystem
>> feature in Fedora, and since I've left Red Hat that has become much less of
>> an priority for me.  But my "other stuff" is still mostly related to btrfs,
>> so its not like this has just been abandoned, the focus has just shifted and
>> I no longer feel like we need to be using btrfs as the default fs in Fedora
>> to have a successful project, so it got moved down the priority list.  It
>> will happen, and when it happens it will be relatively painless because Suse
>> will have worked out a lot of the distro esque kinks and us at Facebook will
>> have worked out a lot of the at scale kinks.  Thanks,
>> Josef
> I think that the out of space issues are not that different from any file
> system on write enabled snapshots - it certainly can be mysterious and
> confuse users, but that is something that we have to deal with in order to
> get this kind of sophistication into end users hands (documentation? better
> tooling like the snapper tool, etc?).
> One of the harder challenges I think for btrfs is still getting the repair
> tools rock solid - how is our track record these days with repairing btrfs
> after bad things happen :) ?

Funny you should ask, I just added a bunch of functionality last week!
 So right now our fsck fixes anything wrong in the extent tree, which
is where a majority of the problems happen.  The other side of course
is the fs tree which is infinitely easier to deal with, but I usually
wait for a user with a broken fs to fix before adding the ability to
fix it into fsck so I'm sure we have a good testcase to work against.
Every fix I add to fsck gets a test image added to btrfs-progs to make
sure we're never regressing.

Obviously we aren't in xfs/e2fsprogs territory, but it'll fix 90% of
the problems and then the other 10% are just a matter of having an
example to work off of.  Thanks,


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