Improving the offline updates user experience

[Bastien Nocera]

----- Original Message -----
> Dne 16.9.2014 v 17:29 Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
> > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:21 +0200, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Has Fedora given up Unix ??
> >
> > This thread has gone quite far out into the weeds. It started with a
> > fairly concrete question: can we improve the offline update experience
> > by requiring only a single reboot, instead of two ?
> 
> That's the core of the problem, while other systems have been trying for
> years to get rid of this nonsense (updates requiring reboots), we are
> moving the opposite direction. Technical reasons aside(*), this is NOT
> right for our users.
> 
> 
> (*) I agree offline updates are the safest way technically but that
> should be only regarded as a workaround for a more fundamental problem,
> lying deep below the desktop level.

There are no desktop systems that can do live application updates. Applications
on mobile OSes get killed (and state is saved) when you update them.

All those OSes require reboots when updating the OS.