dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Jan Zelený jzeleny at redhat.com
Fri Apr 10 07:18:43 UTC 2015


On 10. 4. 2015 at 08:53:46, Petr Spacek wrote:
> On 8.4.2015 17:36, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> > On 04/08/2015 08:39 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> >> On 8. 4. 2015 at 10:26:51, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >>> Am 08.04.2015 um 08:41 schrieb Jan Zelený:
> >>>> Putting the opinion of myself and the dnf team aside, I'd like to point
> >>>> out
> >>>> that the information you want is still available - dnf check-update
> >>>> will
> >>>> show you all the updates, even those that have broken deps. Running
> >>>> this
> >>>> command right after dnf upgrade will list you those that could not be
> >>>> installed
> >>> 
> >>> the world don't work that way
> >>> 
> >>> *nobody* even not myself would call "dnf check-update" after "dnf
> >>> upgrade" installed updates and did not complain about anything
> >> 
> >> You are right, people use it the other way - we have had reports stating
> >> that dnf check-update shows packages that dnf upgrade doesn't select. In
> >> other words, the information about broken updates is still available to
> >> the user.> 
> > Perhaps dnf should keep track whether it had to 'skip-broken' , and report
> > packages that were skipped during the update?
> 
> I very much agree with this. As a user, I expect that 'dnf upgrade' will
> give me latest packages and that DNF will tell me the fact that newer
> packages are available but not installable.
> 
> Maybe it could have a form of plugin, at least for the beginning?

Again, dnf check-update already does that. While I understand the request to 
make it more convenient, I can't promise you that we will do that. Please try 
to understand, we try to keep dnf as structurally clean as possible and 
duplicating functionality does not help that.

Thanks
Jan


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