dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

[Petr Spacek]

On 10.4.2015 09:18, Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 10. 4. 2015 at 08:53:46, Petr Spacek wrote:
>> On 8.4.2015 17:36, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>>> On 04/08/2015 08:39 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
>>>> On 8. 4. 2015 at 10:26:51, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>>> Am 08.04.2015 um 08:41 schrieb Jan Zelený:
>>>>>> Putting the opinion of myself and the dnf team aside, I'd like to point
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> that the information you want is still available - dnf check-update
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> show you all the updates, even those that have broken deps. Running
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> command right after dnf upgrade will list you those that could not be
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>
>>>>> the world don't work that way
>>>>>
>>>>> *nobody* even not myself would call "dnf check-update" after "dnf
>>>>> upgrade" installed updates and did not complain about anything
>>>>
>>>> You are right, people use it the other way - we have had reports stating
>>>> that dnf check-update shows packages that dnf upgrade doesn't select. In
>>>> other words, the information about broken updates is still available to
>>>> the user.> 
>>> Perhaps dnf should keep track whether it had to 'skip-broken' , and report
>>> packages that were skipped during the update?
>>
>> I very much agree with this. As a user, I expect that 'dnf upgrade' will
>> give me latest packages and that DNF will tell me the fact that newer
>> packages are available but not installable.
>>
>> Maybe it could have a form of plugin, at least for the beginning?
> 
> Again, dnf check-update already does that. While I understand the request to 
> make it more convenient, I can't promise you that we will do that. Please try 
> to understand, we try to keep dnf as structurally clean as possible and 
> duplicating functionality does not help that.

I was thinking more about a plugin which calls 'check-update' automatically
when 'upgrade' command finishes.

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Petr^2 Spacek