package-cleanup after F21

[Reindl Harald]

Am 11.08.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:22:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> * package-cleanup don't work
>
> First time you say that.
>
> "package-cleanup --leaves" here certainly prints that lame warning
> about being a deprecated tool, but it's still available and finds 84
> leaves on Rawhide (such as 43 -debuginfo packages and 33 -devel
> packages).

well, *i swear* "package-cleanup --leaves --all" did not output anything 
except the deperation warning after upgrade and reboot

now it lists packages - interesting

>> * "dnf autoremove" is not a working replacement
>>
>> maybe you just did not understand "People usually ask for working
>> things" by miss the context "whether the replacements works or is
>> broken, that's not what you had asked"
>
> Well, you specifically asked for what the dnf-developers expect
> users to run for doing cleanups. That's what the yum2dnf man page
> answers. Whether their replacements all work flawlessly yet,
> really has not been the original question.

they can't seriously expect replace a car by a bike
"autoremove" is not dnf specific and works completly different

what scares me is that DNF was introduced in F22 with all the stupidity 
renaming instead just keep the name and raise the major version as it 
was promised at the very first begin of the story and now a release 
later there are still a ton of things are not there

where i work we call a replacement so when it has the same capabilities 
and semantics and until that happened we don't replace things

no, don't come with the "it's free software" because the replace every 
few months things with half baken other things and permanently changing 
semantics is the main reason people don't switch to Linux - frankly, i 
can't recommend anybody switch from Windows to fedora when i know that 
after people learned how to deal with the system needless, user visible 
changes are introduced

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