Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

[Marcin Haba]

Hello,

On 17.08.2015 16:33, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:50:26 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
> 
>> Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
> 
> Waiting for what?

For sponsoring me by somebody. Please read context. And this thread
title either ;-)

> There may be a misunderstanding of the How To Get Sponsored Wiki page.

If everything works fine with sponsoring, so why does this subject
exist? It is not first thread here about sponsoring.

>> I am active in a few Fedora
>> areas (informal reviews, bugs requests, preparing new features requests,
>> small patch preparation to fedora-review tool, mailing list sent from
>> time to time....).
> 
> That sounds like quite some activity which you should mention when
> contacting a potential sponsor. In your package review requests you
> have met some potential sponsors already.

Yes, I have met a potential sponsor. But it did not cause that I started
to be sponsored. It is not my intention to ask every sponsor about
sponsoring me. For this purpose is used FE-NEEDSPONSOR ticket and I am
there already.

> Please don't expect *every* sponsor to observe *everyone* everywhere
> within the Fedora Project or even beyond that.

I do not expect every sponsor to observe every everywhere. But sponsors
that are not only two or three persons ;-)

> Sponsors usually take a look at the queue, and if there is no name they
> have seen before, or if there is only a single package submitted by
> somebody, that's not much input. However, a single package review
> ticket is a great place where to point at reviews you've done, or to
> give sponsors a hint about any other activity (such as packages in Copr
> or a private repo). Sponsors cannot know that.

I do not have only single package ticket. And in near feature I am going
to provide more packages to review. It is also required for unbundle one
my big package that I am trying to contribute Fedora.

>> My feeling as new person in Fedora devel community is that something
>> does not work here. From my point of view it looks that at least these
>> new persons' activities are not noticed or are ignored.
> 
> As above. Waiting is the biggest pitfall of the needsponsor review queue.
> The worst is not responding to reviewer's comments and waiting inactively
> for months (without even maintaining the submitted packages).

Please show me ticket where I did not response in reasonable time? In
ticket for, which I am doing informal reviews, that I remind people that
ticket does not move forward.

> The Wiki also suggests doing some things _in advance_ (such as a few
> reviews, and weeks to months give plenty of time to attempt at doing a
> few reviews), so if a potential sponsor takes a look at the single
> package somebody may have added to the queue, there is more input in the
> ticket than just a single (and possibly flawed/broken) package.

In which place packages added by my are broken?

I am not going to continue this discussion because as I wrote in
previous mail, it was only feedback from my side. It is not my intention
to gain something by this feedback. It is just feedback to potential
consideration if it is useful.

Thanks.

Best regards.
Marcin Haba

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