Unable to submit update for F22 (was Re: bodhi 2 now live)

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:33:37 -0500
Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com> wrote:

> On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> > To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is inacceptable,
> >
> > This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or
> > else - period.
> 
> The last time a non-Fedora hosted / closed source service was
> suggested it was shot down.
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-October/191012.html
> 
> Have times changed? Using github is acceptable?

For what? :) 

IMHO, I think projects should be free to choose whatever tools they
wish to build their project. You are of course free to choose to not
use that application/project based on that or other factors. 

Closed source applications are not something we ever want to run in
Fedora Infrastructure, we run all open source applications. 

We don't drop or remove applications that choose to use non free tools
(like github) to develop their open source application. Partly because
IMHO it seems poor to try and dictate to projects we simply use
applications from how they work, and partly because it's a grey line.
If we say "no non free tools can be used to develop any application we
use" how do we audit that? If some contributor runs a non free tool and
uses it to improve an application how do we know? 

Should we likewise remove all these things from Fedora? 

Does the line include running servers with non free firmware?
Storage appliances? Routers? 

I think the best we can do is run 100% open source applications and
urge upstreams to use free tools to create and manage those where
possible. 

kevin
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