RFC : in-development flag for packages

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:46:01 +0200
Yanko Kaneti <yaneti at declera.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 09:13 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:54:44 +0200
> > Yanko Kaneti <yaneti at declera.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 06:35 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 18:25:59 +0200
> > > > Yanko Kaneti <yaneti at declera.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > This has been brewing in my head for a while so I'll just 
> > > > > spill it
> > > > >  
> > > > > Introduce an "in-development" flag for packages in Fedora.
> > > > ...snip...
> > > > 
> 
> > > - Its a bit undiscoverable to the casual yum/dnf user, you have to
> > > know about it and it seems to me searchable only through the web 
> > > interface.
> 
> > If the software is so in development that we shouldn't ship it in a 
> > stable release we likely shouldn't ship it in a development release 
> > also. the software additionally would not be available to the
> > casual user as they tend to not run rawhide but a stable release
> > where the software is not available
> 
> Sorry, my "casual user" was confusing. What I meant is the casual 
> drive-by developer/sysadmin type that when tasked with something 
> requiring software not already in Fedora does something resembling:
> 
> - yum searches something_related, doesn't find it
> - knows about copr and searches there, doesn't find it
> - goes to google/github and searches in the jungle, then either 
> downloads or does homebrew packaging which solves his problem but 
> doesn't necessarily benefit the whole picture.
> 
> And this whole picture in my ideal world is people having Fedora as 
> their primary development platform with every conceivable foss 
> software at their fingertips, preferably packaged in a production or 
> in-development form.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.

In your scenarios though they like do not see the software anyway
because it is only in rawhide and they are using a stable Fedora. so
what you really need I think is a way to have them contribute back to a
copr the software they use to enable it to develop to a point it can be
included in Fedora, if it make sense. For your ideal world is exactly
why we have copr's

Dennis