Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

[Hedayat Vatankhah]

/*Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro at gnome.org>*/ wrote on Sun, 28 Dec 2014 
11:05:00 -0600:
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the "novice 
>> user" and the Fedora Workstation target user i. e., developers?
>
> Not necessarily. I wrote:
>
> "Yes, Workstation targets developers, but not exclusively, and also 
> developers who use fancy IDEs and who don't work with the terminal. I 
> just don't want this thread to degenerate into a discussion of this 
> lousy definition [of normal/novice users], since it's not important. 
> What's important is that we want Workstation to be excellent for users 
> who never touch the terminal."
>
> Fedora currently suffers from the impression that it is a complicated 
> OS for advanced users only, and that novices (including novice 
> developers) should use Ubuntu instead.
>

Well, I was really surprised that developers are considered a target 
audience here. GNOME Software *might* be considered good enough for 
normal users, but its far from usable for a developer; even a developer 
who don't want to touch the terminal. Actually, it is *terrible* for 
such a developer. Why?

1. He search for "C++" and .... (I doubt that it tries to interpret it 
as a regular expression or something. Probably it thinks that the user 
is an idiot and removes "+" signs on behalf of him).
2. He has installed Eclipse + CDT and hopefully he can compile his C++ 
programs with GCC. Now, he learns about Clang and would like to try it.
3. He is using an x86_64 system, but he happen to need to compile his 
program for 32bit systems. or even cross-compile for ARM.
4. He needs a networking library, or want to use Boost, or ....

GNOME Software is not that useful for a developer. As Rechard himself 
said, he'll need a package manager anyway. So, If Workstation product 
really targets developers, specially the ones who don't want to use 
terminal, it MUST include a graphical package manager.

Regards,
Hedayat

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